BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag Btw @talkwordy also said you could host #sffwrtcht entirely in pig latin. (Thu Jan 31 01:35:10 +0000 2013)
BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag @talkwordy Oookinglah orwardfah oootah tih #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 01:35:58 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag @geekstarter needs to check our guest lists. Tons of editors in the past. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:37:09 +0000 2013)
FiresideMag: @BryanThomasS @geekstarter Oh I get it. Just trying to get out of the pants rule! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:37:49 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: RT @BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag Btw @talkwordy also said you could host #sffwrtcht entirely in pig latin. (Thu Jan 31 01:37:58 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: anmay I atehay atthay uygay RT @BryanThomasS @FiresideMag @talkwordy Oookinglah orwardfah oootah tih #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:38:24 +0000 2013)
galendara: RT @FiresideMag: I think music and bourbon are in order for the #sffwrtcht I am guest-hosting in 30 minutes. But which bourbon and what … (Thu Jan 31 01:39:21 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag We do that deliberately to keep our guests on edge #sffwrtcht Yes (Thu Jan 31 01:40:26 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag Why do you think I keep doing kickstarters? Bribing @twitter ain’t cheap 
#sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:41:36 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I have decided that even though no one can see me I am wearing one of my hats for the #sffwrtcht (the one in my @talkwordy profile pic) (Thu Jan 31 01:44:17 +0000 2013)
Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag Does dressing the part help? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:45:37 +0000 2013)galendara: @FiresideMag (aka @talkwordy) then sir, you have all that you need. #hats #burbon #music #Pants? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:45:53 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @galendara @FiresideMag @talkwordy Ahh, until I change the rules again #coldheartedbastard #myperogative #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:46:35 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: RT @galendara: @FiresideMag (aka @talkwordy) then sir, you have all that you need. #hats #burbon #music #Pants? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:46:37 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: @BryanThomasS @galendara @talkwordy If you take bourbon off the table I’m shutting off Twitter and spending an hour on Tumblr #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:47:23 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag @galendara @talkwordy Drink what you want. Makes the piglatin rule far more entertaining #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:48:11 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag @geekstarter Hell, I’m hosting with no pants. Why do you think I do this on twitter? #sffwrtcht #tmi #ewwwwwwwwwwwww (Thu Jan 31 01:48:59 +0000 2013)
talkwordy: 10 minutes until my guest-host of #sffwrtcht roundtable. I’ll be doing it from @FiresideMag. Follow along on the hashtag. (Thu Jan 31 01:51:18 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: OK. I’ve settled on Four Roses Single Barrel and Frank Turner for the #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:51:59 +0000 2013)
LGwenn: RT @talkwordy: 10 minutes until my guest-host of #sffwrtcht roundtable. I’ll be doing it from @FiresideMag. Follow along on the hashtag. (Thu Jan 31 01:52:38 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Future Guests 2/6 @ShelleyAdina 2/13 @stevengould 2/20 @lampwright4 2/27 @sarahahoyt 3/6 Alaya Dawn Johnson 3/13 Dave Farland #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:53:31 +0000 2013)
sffwrtcht: Future Guests 2/6 @ShelleyAdina 2/13 @stevengould 2/20 @lampwright4 2/27 @sarahahoyt 3/6 Alaya Dawn Johnson 3/13 Dave Farland #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:53:31 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: 5 min to #pantlessbourbonchat night on #sffwrtcht with @firesidemag live! (Thu Jan 31 01:55:04 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Turner’s song Eulogy is especially apt for talking about the magazine: “And on the day I day I’ll say at least I fucking tried” #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:55:04 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: 5 min to #pantlessbourbonchat night on #sffwrtcht with @firesidemag live! (Thu Jan 31 01:55:05 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: RT @BryanThomasS: 5 min to #pantlessbourbonchat night on #sffwrtcht with @firesidemag live! (Thu Jan 31 01:55:13 +0000 2013)
PrinceJvstin: @sffwrtcht @firesidemag wait, I have pants and no bourbon. Where does that leave me? (Thu Jan 31 01:55:37 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag Did I mention this is a family friendly chat? Turner’s not on the guest list for a reason #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 01:55:47 +0000 2013)
mrsmica: RT @BryanThomasS: #sffwrtcht’s YA REPORT talks #writing #london #publishing #scifi #fantasy and more with @Pyr_Books author @timlebbon h … (Thu Jan 31 01:57:21 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Welcome to Science Fiction & Fantasy Writer’s Chat #sffwrtcht It’s Roundtable night! Tonight’s guest host @firesidemag (Thu Jan 31 01:59:59 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: We’re gonna talk about #zines #crowdfunding #buidingfires #editing without getting burned and more #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:00:30 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Our guest edits @firesidemag which he founded but also edits DailySF, newspaper copy, and the occasional tweet. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:01:08 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Welcome to #sffwrtcht in full pig latin, @talkwordy & @firesidemag! (Thu Jan 31 02:01:32 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Hi everyone! Glad to be here! #sffwrtcht Thanks to @BryanThomasS for inviting me on (Thu Jan 31 02:01:57 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: So let’s start Brian, by talking a bit about how @firesidemag came to be #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:02:18 +0000 2013)mrsmica: RT @BryanThomasS: Welcome to Science Fiction & Fantasy Writer’s Chat #sffwrtcht It’s Roundtable night! Tonight’s guest host @firesidemag (Thu Jan 31 02:02:28 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Fireside kind of came out of a stew of ideas about publishing I was coming across a lot on Twitter and blogs during 2011 #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:02:58 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: And when those combined with my discovery of Kickstarter late that fall, I thought “Hey, I could publish a magazine.” #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:03:37 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag Examples of those ideas? Underpaid writers? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:04:06 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Sure, underpaid writers was one. Also the idea of crowdfunding, and finding a sustainable way to publish short fiction #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:05:04 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag What led you to want to edit? You work in journalism, right? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:05:41 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Y’all can ask questions of our guest any time. He’ll lead a discussion after we learn a little about him #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:06:29 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I’m a newspaper copy editor. The idea of editing a magazine kind of just sprang into being the day I read about Kickstarter #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:06:59 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I’ve always been a big fiction reader, and the idea to make a genreless magazine was inspired by @neilhimself anthology Stories #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:07:52 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Did you train in #editing? Start as #writing? Where’d you learn storytelling and editing craft? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:08:15 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Everything I learned about writing and editing is from newspapers. It’s different editing fiction, but there is common ground #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:09:23 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: In my experience, writing and editing was learned by doing, not in class. Internships served me better than journalism classes #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:10:19 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag So why Fireside? What was involved in choosing a name? Format? etc.? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:10:27 +0000 2013)
jadoogan: RT @FiresideMag: I’ve always been a big fiction reader, and the idea to make a genreless magazine was inspired by @neilhimself anthology … (Thu Jan 31 02:10:35 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The name comes from Boy Scouts. I loved when we sat around a campfire, on the edge of our seats as ghost stories were told #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:11:17 +0000 2013)PrinceJvstin: What does editing work teach you about writing, @FiresideMag #sffwrtcht? What could writers learn from your editing experiences? (Thu Jan 31 02:11:18 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag LOL A lot of us have those scouting memories… #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 02:12:05 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think the format sort of followed what I was seeing in other fiction magazines, fourish stories. The comic was for fun #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:12:14 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Being an editor helps with writing because you learn to look at your own work analytically. Things that work, things that don’t #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:13:18 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag How did you figure out @kickstarter? and how to run a successful campaign? You’ve done it 3 times now #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:13:46 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Seeing other people’s mistakes and successes can teach you a lot #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 02:13:58 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: RT @FiresideMag: Seeing other people’s mistakes and successes can teach you a lot #sffwrtcht / amen! This is the editor’s classroom (Thu Jan 31 02:14:28 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: RT @FiresideMag: Seeing other people’s mistakes and successes can teach you a lot #sffwrtcht / amen! This is the editor’s classroom (Thu Jan 31 02:14:28 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I read a lot about Kickstarter ahead of time, about strategies etc. But the first time, I really had no idea what I was going #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:14:50 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: But I think that what Amanda Palmer said after her KS is true: to crowdfund you have to have a crowd #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:16:09 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think I had just enough of a crowd on Twitter, that combined with the Issue One contributors we reached enough people #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:17:11 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I got my crowd on @talkwordy by being a goofball, I guess. That’s my thing on here, and people seem to like it #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:17:55 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I’m surprised every day that there is this big group of people who find me amusing #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:18:16 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag So name recognition is part. Personality and humor is part. Other tips? #crowdfunding #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:18:28 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: But there wasn’t any plan to getting a bunch of followers. It just kind of happened as I was my goofy self in public #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:18:49 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think if you have something interesting to say — be it funny, serious, or useful — people will find you. It takes time #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:19:41 +0000 2013)jadoogan: RT @FiresideMag: I think if you have something interesting to say — be it funny, serious, or useful — people will find you. It takes t … (Thu Jan 31 02:20:08 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Yes @kickstarters do take work. Promotion, etc. It’s not just about a crowd that comes in with you. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:20:28 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I’d say the important thing is to be genuine. People can tell if you’re trying to build and audience. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:20:30 +0000 2013)
chippermuse: RT @FiresideMag: Being an editor helps with writing because you learn to look at your own work analytically. Things that work, things th … (Thu Jan 31 02:20:36 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: It’s true that KS is a lot of work. I talked about it on here every day. Did Q&A’s with the writers and artists. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:21:32 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: Dang snow and mud. Had to go out and deal with car things for a bit. Sorry! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:22:19 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I was also fortunate @neilhimself RT’d us twice — this was before KS went huge and he wasn’t getting pelted with RT requests #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:22:34 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag Where did you do the Q&As? On twitter? A blog? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:22:41 +0000 2013)
arogers907: RT @FiresideMag: I think if you have something interesting to say — be it funny, serious, or useful — people will find you. It takes t … (Thu Jan 31 02:23:11 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I did the Q&A’s on the KS updates page, which is like the project blog, and linked to them on Twitter and my blogs #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:23:28 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: What’s the best and worst Kickstarter advice you got? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:24:19 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Were those spur of the moment or did you prepare them ahead? #sffwrtcht Talk about the stories? Their craft? (Thu Jan 31 02:24:32 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The best advice I got was to grit my teeth and do a video. (thanks @amylikestodraw!) It really does help. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:25:17 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Interestingly it seems no one ever watches the video all the way through #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:26:02 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The first time we did the Q&A’s was kind of spur of the moment. Since then I have planned on them #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:26:12 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: It’s true about the videos not getting watched all the way through, but I think for the people who do watch, it can be a draw #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:26:40 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag Ok, so what do you look for in a story to select writers? #sffwrtcht Is it invite only? (Thu Jan 31 02:26:49 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The first two issues were invite only, and the third was mostly, with one story we got through submissions #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:27:32 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag What kinds of stories (poetry? art? other?) do you publish in Fireside? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:27:55 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The thing is, all of those invites, I asked the writers before they’d written anything. They wrote after we funded. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:28:10 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: They were taking a risk on me, an unknown editor, and I didn’t want to ask them to do work before we knew I could pay #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:28:38 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: And it worked out beautifully. I’ve loved all the stories we’ve gotten that way. It’s actually quite fun. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:29:03 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: We publish fiction in all genres. Our criteria is great storytelling of the “what happens next” variety. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:29:45 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The artwork we commission to go with the stories. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:29:57 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: So let me toss a question out to the #sffwrtcht crowd. Are any of you thinking about crowdfunding projects? (Thu Jan 31 02:30:44 +0000 2013)
panelpatter: @FiresideMag Do you think that KS fatigue is kicking in and will it hurt projects that don’t have established track records? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:31:33 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag I’m part of an ongoing crowdfunded project (http://t.co/nBvhGZWy) and am thinking about kickstarter. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:32:05 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag I’m running one right now. http://t.co/crE88Q9S #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 02:32:07 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I haven’t seen evidence of fatigue. I do think the sheer number of projects means yours needs to be really good to get attention #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:32:39 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: Dang Twitter. The website is www dot tornworld dot net #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 02:33:04 +0000 2013)
JXilon: @FiresideMag I’ve got an idea for something I’d like to do in the future, after I’ve found a bit of a crowd. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:33:07 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: . @Wyld_Dandelyon what is the one you are thinking about? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:33:33 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @FiresideMag What do you think it takes to stand out on Kickstarter? Besides having @neilhimself RT you? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:33:57 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: . @BryanThomasS Your project is with a publisher, right? How does that compare to running a project on your own? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:34:17 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @FiresideMag I know you mentioned being genuine, etc., which is key. But how do you get “seen” in Internet’s glut of info? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:35:10 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Well, they help me promote and they get a voice in decisions. I’m running the @kickstarter though #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:35:33 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Well, having @neilhimself RT is useful, but that wasn’t the only thing. I think you have to have a solid idea AND a solid plan #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:35:49 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Also, they promised to cover overages if anything goes over budget so I can get paid for my work as editor #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:36:09 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think that being seen comes out of the genuineness. If your crowd takes you seriously, they will notice when you pitch an idea #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:36:29 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag @neilhimself is a heavy hitter. But there are kickstarters with heavy hitters as well and clearly that helps #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:36:41 +0000 2013)panelpatter: @FiresideMag Do you think the amount a person asks for matters? Is it better to ask for, say, 5K at a time than 25K to do more? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:37:33 +0000 2013)panelpatter: RT @FiresideMag: I haven’t seen evidence of fatigue. I do think the sheer number of projects means yours needs to be really good to get … (Thu Jan 31 02:37:41 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: It’s true. If you have a big crowd, unless you have a crazy ridiculous funding goal, you should be fine #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:37:56 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: Publishing a Torn World novella or novellette/novella pair, or a collection of my short stories are the most likely. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:38:18 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Funny you should ask about size. Starting out last year, we funded 1 issue at a time because I didn’t think I could raise huge $ #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:38:42 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: But doing it over and over does lead to fatigue. We’re launching a longer-term KS next week. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:39:21 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think we have the credibility now to shoot for a bigger goal. It’s a big ambition, but we need to create stability #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:40:02 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: FYI @FiresideMag can’t say a whole lot about the @kickstarter next week because plans are still being finalized. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:40:04 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: It’s true. Still getting contracts, etc. so I can’t say too much. But we are shooting to fund a year of Fireside. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:40:41 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: It is going to be in a revamped format, with what we hope is a more sustainable model. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:41:01 +0000 2013)JXilon: @FiresideMag I’d like to collect my flash fiction, have it edited and made into a nice e-book – have an idea for the rights… #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:41:14 +0000 2013)
vesperazwartjan: RT @sffwrtcht: We’re gonna talk about #zines #crowdfunding #buidingfires #editing without getting burned and more #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:41:48 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think collections of stories are great KS projects. They can be done relatively cheaply and hold a lot of fan appeal. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:41:59 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Can you tell us how many issues would make up a year at least? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:42:05 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Yes, we are going to be shifting from quarterly to monthly, so 12 issues. But not at the same per-issue cost as last year. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:42:35 +0000 2013)JXilon: @FiresideMag I want to figure out a license that makes the text protected but the worlds/characters “open-source” for any who buy #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:43:00 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: The Kickstarter is approved, we’ll be launching on Monday morning. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:43:17 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Given discussions we’ve had, I’m intrigued. Quite ambitious! Good luck! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:43:26 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: .@JXilon Oooh that is interesting. You’d be releasing your world to the crowd, then? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:44:01 +0000 2013)JXilon: @FiresideMag other ideas for it – including the original and professionally edited versions for comparison. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:44:22 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: Did you have any unusual or very popular rewards, over and above (or besides) a copy of the magazine? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:45:14 +0000 2013)
geekstarter: @FiresideMag Can you tell us the rough makeup of each issue? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:45:21 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: .@Metafrantic It’s go big or go home time I think #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:45:39 +0000 2013)JXilon: @FiresideMag Worlds. Many of them. Probably 20 at the least. But yeah a collection of shared worlds and characters for the crowd. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:45:54 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think I am going to keep the composition of the issues under my fedora for now since the contracts aren’t done. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:46:36 +0000 2013)geekstarter: RT @FiresideMag: .@Metafrantic It’s go big or go home time I think #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 02:46:39 +0000 2013)
Metafrantic: Not the size I’m concerned about. It’s the grind of putting out an issue every month. @FiresideMag #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:46:46 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag If answering @geekstarter about future issues is an issue, you could tell us about the existing ones. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:47:07 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Ah. I actually think that editing monthly will be easier than hustling out a KS every four months. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:47:34 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Our popular rewards were autographs from contributors, and Tuckerizations — getting your name used as a character in a story #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:48:24 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag I’ll file that under things you never expect magazine editors to say #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:48:40 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Each of our first three issues had four short stories plus a comic, as well as art with each story. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:48:58 +0000 2013)Metafrantic: Hmm, arguable. Try doing both at once! @FiresideMag #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:49:12 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think that working at a newspaper helps make a lot of editing not faze me. I edit 15-20 news stories a day. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:49:49 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Why do you think that is? For #beyondthesun, those were not as big of a draw so didn’t include in RAYGUN CHRONICLES #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:49:50 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: @BryanThomasS Which autographs or Tuckerizations? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:50:19 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Tuckerizations and contributor autographs #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:50:40 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Our issue makeup will be very different in Year Two though. One of the big changes. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:50:48 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag @Wyld_Dandelyon I have two of the issues. They are nice, color digests on glossy paper with good illustrations. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:51:31 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Hmm interesting. I’m not sure why the difference. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:52:03 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Yes, and we also did ebooks, both PDFs of the print issues and other formats designed by @pablod. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:52:47 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: For short-fiction readers: What do you like/not like about the way short fiction is delivered these days? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:54:03 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag How did you go about determining your audience and targeting appropriately? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:54:08 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I think the audience found us through authors I invited, which is one reason it was important to have them on board at the start #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:54:51 +0000 2013)JXilon: @FiresideMag Seems many prolific writers have journalism/programming exp. I wonder if it’s similar: used to fast output &deadline #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:55:22 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I kind of have a fuzzy warm idea of our audience as “people who love good stories.” So that’s how I market #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:55:57 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Journalism teaches you to work hard, work fast, ignore distractions, and get it right the first time. All important for speed #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:56:50 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: @geekstarter psst, use the #sffwrtcht or no one will see you (Thu Jan 31 02:57:18 +0000 2013)JXilon: @FiresideMag probably why autographs and tuckerizations were popular. Your crowd was fans of the people signing and writing. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:57:49 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Yeah I think that’s probably true. All of the people I’ve worked with are active on social media to at least some degree. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:58:23 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Future Guests 2/6 @ShelleyAdina 2/13 @stevengould 2/20 @lampwright4 2/27 @sarahahoyt 3/6 Alaya Dawn Johnson 3/13 Dave Farland #sffwrtcht ,, (Thu Jan 31 02:58:28 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Future Guests 2/6 @ShelleyAdina 2/13 @stevengould 2/20 @lampwright4 2/27 @sarahahoyt 3/6 Alaya Dawn Johnson 3/13 Dave Farland #sffwrtcht ,, (Thu Jan 31 02:58:29 +0000 2013)geekstarter: @FiresideMag Blatant boosterism, but I like mixed-genre collections. I get tired of reading the same genre over and over. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:59:11 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: That’s more from how I usually find writers and artists — on Twitter — than from seeking out people with crowds #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:59:12 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Next week we talk #ya #writing #steampunk #fantasy #scifi and more with guest @ShelleyAdina at 9 pm ET West on #sffwrtcht Join us! (Thu Jan 31 02:59:21 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Next week we talk #ya #writing #steampunk #fantasy #scifi and more with guest @ShelleyAdina at 9 pm ET West on #sffwrtcht Join us! (Thu Jan 31 02:59:22 +0000 2013)
fullofstars: RT @FiresideMag: Journalism teaches you to work hard, work fast, ignore distractions, and get it right the first time. All important for … (Thu Jan 31 02:59:23 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@FiresideMag Any dream writers/artists you’re hoping to work with but haven’t yet? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 02:59:54 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I’ve broadened my genre horizons a lot the past 4-5 years. It makes the editing more interesting too. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:00:05 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag We’re at 1 hour. Do you want to go or hang out a bit longer? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:00:16 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: @BryanThomasS I can hang longer if people want #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:00:31 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Ok. Any advice for aspiring Fireside writers? #sffwrtcht Or advice for aspiring editors? (Thu Jan 31 03:01:11 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Hmm, dream writers? Warren Ellis would be awesome but I fear for my soul. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:01:37 +0000 2013)jadoogan: @geekstarter @FiresideMag I�m above the rules. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:02:14 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: And some day I will get @hilarydavidson to write me a crime story #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:02:43 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Hmm, well as I said, we are looking for page-turners. If you write good plot you may be for us. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:03:26 +0000 2013)
littlefluffycat: @FiresideMag You must come prepared with offerings to propitiate @warrenellis. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:04:02 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: For aspiring editors? Find smart people and learn as much as you can from them. Goes for writers too. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:04:23 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Who else has questions for @firesidemag? You can ask in pig latin…no promise that he’ll answer… #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:05:06 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: No no. It’s OK. I don’t think I should sign and contracts with @warrenellis. I already sold my soul for a pizza. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:05:09 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag @warrenellis Clearly you need more bourbon to think clearly in this matter #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:05:56 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: It’s true! I’ve been so busy typing I haven’t even finished my first glass. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:06:31 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag If you go to monthly, will this become full time? You’ve been going it all alone. Recruiting staff? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:06:36 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @FiresideMag Was it at least a good, real New York pizza? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:07:20 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Sadly the plan for going monthly involves us just breaking even. I’m hoping to someday make this a career but for now no fulltime #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:07:39 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @chippermuse @FiresideMag yes! Someone who knows REAL pizza! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:07:44 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag Then you must stick around–after all, you designated two drinks to the party; you haven’t had time to get to #2. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:08:22 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I have some smart people helping me on some tech stuff, but the editorial side will be just me for the foreseeable future #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:08:36 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I do of course have a team of volunteer slush readers, led heroically by @geekstarter #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:09:30 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Still, it’s a lot of work for one person. #sffwrtcht How do you do it? Do you skip sleep? #bettingonmorebourbon (Thu Jan 31 03:09:34 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @BryanThomasS @FiresideMag I sold my soul for an honest-to-god NY pizza when I was just a kid. It was worth it. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:09:47 +0000 2013)geekstarter: RT @FiresideMag: I do of course have a team of volunteer slush readers, led heroically by @geekstarter #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:09:49 +0000 2013)
EllenDatlow: @sffwrtcht @panelpatter @FiresideMag @kickstarter I think it’s important to ask what you need/want to create the best product you can. (Thu Jan 31 03:09:58 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: *cowers* Uh, sure. Trade you for a story? #sffwrtcht RT @warrenellis @littlefluffycat @FiresideMag BRING ME THE SOULS. ALSO THE PIZZA (Thu Jan 31 03:10:11 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @FiresideMag I’ll give you that. East Coast all the way! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:10:18 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Yeah, I am sleep-deprived. And my wife, Lauren, is understanding. But I make sure to leave some room for life, too. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:10:54 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: #sffwrtcht RT @EllenDatlow @panelpatter @FiresideMag I think it’s important to ask what you need/want to create the best product you can. (Thu Jan 31 03:11:48 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I agree with Ellen. You can’t ask for too little money or your project will fail after it is funded. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:12:12 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag @EllenDatlow Don’t you also think it’s important to present it professionally and offer a variety of options? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:13:35 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @chippermuse @FiresideMag St. Louis people THINK they know pizza. It’s a travesty. #sffwrtcht @warrenellis can get souls cheap there (Thu Jan 31 03:14:13 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Professionalism and options are vital. I have backed a lot of Kickestarters, and I have passed on a lot of bad ones #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:14:33 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: But you have to have a really good grasp of costs. I have heard about lots of Kickstarter projects that ran out of money #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:15:42 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @BryanThomasS Wait… @warrenellis wants Midwest pizza? *shakes head sadly* @FiresideMag #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:15:42 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I am from Philly and I like our pizza best. Also, CHEESESTEAKS #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 03:16:24 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Budgeting is always important but I also think realism about where you sit in the market is a factor. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:16:27 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @FiresideMag Ooh. Anything stand out to you that is a red flag on a KS project? How’d you decide it was a bad one? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:16:48 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag Ohhhhhh I love Philly sandwiches… #sffwrtcht Damn you for making me salivate… (Thu Jan 31 03:16:49 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: Sadly, I have to have gluten-free corn-free pizza these days. No more pizzerias for me. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:16:53 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Definitely. You have to pare and pare until you so you are as lean and as good as possible #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:17:55 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @chippermuse @warrenellis @FiresideMag No, I think he just wants souls. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:18:34 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag What are the essential budgeting line items? (What can be pared and what can’t?) #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:19:02 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Bad signs: Really high fundraising goal from an unknown person. Really high fundraising goal for a really small project. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:19:14 +0000 2013)
rahkan: RT @nancykress: #sffwrtcht I started writing at nearly age 3o. Pregnant, isolated, a toddler at home–I wrote stories to keep from goin … (Thu Jan 31 03:19:34 +0000 2013)
jakedfw: @FiresideMag I really liked that the Tuckerization in my father/son story was done by a son for his father on Father’s Day. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:19:42 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Budget for: KS fees, shipping, material cost of producing product, paying people. add 10% because something always goes wrong #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:20:16 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag @Wyld_Dandelyon Budget cost of rewards and that’s tricky since you don’t know how many you’ll need. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:21:00 +0000 2013)
neilhimself: @FiresideMag about 15 so far today. Plus getting yelled at by someone for being rich for plugging one of them. #sffwrtcht @joe_hill (Thu Jan 31 03:21:10 +0000 2013)
johnklima: RT @FiresideMag: Budget for: KS fees, shipping, material cost of producing product, paying people. add 10% because something always goes … (Thu Jan 31 03:21:43 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: @neilhimself *shakes head* Well, I thank you for the help you gave us last year. We have published three issues now #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:22:12 +0000 2013)johnklima: @FiresideMag and people will still question why you are asking for so much money #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:22:16 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag I can, at least, buy special pizza crust and bake it at home. The flavor is different, though. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:22:22 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: @neilhimself Wait. Did @joe_hill yell at you? So mean. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:22:49 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: I haven’t gotten questioned about my goals yet. I hope that they don’t on Monday. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:23:14 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @BryanThomasS What rewards have worked best for you? #sffwrtcht(Thu Jan 31 03:23:32 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @Wyld_Dandelyon Editor signed copies of hardback, paperback, both w/ ebooks. Also the lower tiers are always more popular Swag #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:24:43 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @FiresideMag Any other opportunities come out of it? #beyondthesun got me RAYGUN contract and Fairwood contract #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:25:53 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Hmm I have picked up a few freelance fiction editing jobs since I started Fireside but nothing formal. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:26:46 +0000 2013)
talekyn: This counts as an Interesting Day. Sadly, it caused me to miss #sffwrtcht with @FiresideMag. Many apologies, friends. (Thu Jan 31 03:26:52 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Hey @johnklima. Anything to add about your own Kickstartering experiences? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:27:19 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @talekyn @FiresideMag Speaking of tuckerization, how’s this guy going to afford 12 issues of it next year? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:27:28 +0000 2013)
JessicaMeddows: RT @FiresideMag: For aspiring editors? Find smart people and learn as much as you can from them. Goes for writers too. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:27:37 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Haha true. @talekyn is the only person to have appeared in all three issues. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:27:54 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: RT @FiresideMag: Budget for: KS fees, shipping, material cost of producing product, paying people. add 10% because something always goes … (Thu Jan 31 03:29:01 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: RT @talekyn: @FiresideMag Got the Hat Trick. Going for the … what do you call four-in-a-row? Quadtastic? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:29:15 +0000 2013)johnklima: @FiresideMag budget is important, be patient, don’t stop promoting & marketing, contact everyone you know to help spread the word #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:29:59 +0000 2013)talekyn: @BryanThomasS @FiresideMag I’ll keep earning money selling stories to Bryan, then turn around and buy Tuckerizations from Brian. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:30:33 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @talekyn @FiresideMag I don’t have 12 of anything coming out next year. heh #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:31:01 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Speaking of people I know, could use help spreading the word abouthttp://t.co/crE88Q9S RAYGUN CHRONICLES #sffwrtcht #scifi (Thu Jan 31 03:32:05 +0000 2013)littlefluffycat: RT @BryanThomasS: Speaking of people I know, could use help spreading the word about http://t.co/crE88Q9S RAYGUN CHRONICLES #sffwrtcht # … (Thu Jan 31 03:32:13 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Any more questions? My tendinitised wrists are getting ready to give out. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:32:13 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: RT @BryanThomasS: Speaking of people I know, could use help spreading the word about http://t.co/crE88Q9S RAYGUN CHRONICLES #sffwrtcht # … (Thu Jan 31 03:32:25 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @johnklima, @mcahogarth and Cecelia Tan both have said you need to promote the kickstarter every single day it’s open. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:32:33 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Yes, and he needs to finish his bourbon. IT’s warm now. Brian, thanks for being with us tonight for a lively #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:32:51 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @Wyld_Dandelyon @johnklima @mcahogarth I do promote it daily. It’s still tough. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:33:16 +0000 2013)JXilon: RT @BryanThomasS: Speaking of people I know, could use help spreading the word about http://t.co/crE88Q9S RAYGUN CHRONICLES #sffwrtcht # … (Thu Jan 31 03:33:49 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@firesidemag Any final thoughts before you go? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:33:50 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: .@firesidemag Any final thoughts before you go? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:33:50 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: @FiresideMag Thanks for sticking around for so long! Don’t risk damaging your hands for us. Come by again later instead! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:34:11 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: Just that I am constantly amazed that I have done a whole year of this so far, and very grateful. Thanks everyone. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:34:53 +0000 2013)FiresideMag: And, uh, check out our Kickstarter on Monday! #sffwrtcht #shameless (Thu Jan 31 03:35:07 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: Well that was a starstudded #sffwrtcht @neilhimself @ellendatlow @warrenellis @joe_hill @johnklima and others making cameos! (Thu Jan 31 03:35:36 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Well that was a starstudded #sffwrtcht @neilhimself @ellendatlow @warrenellis @joe_hill @johnklima and others making cameos! (Thu Jan 31 03:35:37 +0000 2013)talekyn: @BryanThomasS @FiresideMag Clearly, you’ll just have to pay me more. Or Bryan will have to buy a story. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:35:37 +0000 2013)chippermuse: @FiresideMag Thanks for the chat and for staying late with us! And for not forcing us to sell souls or give you pizza. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:35:55 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: .@FiresideMag Send me the link and I’ll definitely post it for you on the transcript etc. We can cross promote #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:36:09 +0000 2013)talekyn: @BryanThomasS @neilhimself @EllenDatlow @warrenellis @joe_hill @johnklima No way. I missed that? Stupid work travel. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:36:29 +0000 2013)sffwrtcht: Next week @ShelleyAdina. Transcript coming up shortly @http://t.co/1PXNcSRA Thanks for chatting! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:37:01 +0000 2013)
parisianfeline: @FiresideMag You’re doing another kickstarter? I thought you were going to look for another way to fund Fireside?? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:37:02 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: RT @FiresideMag: @BryanThomasS For sure. Thank you. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:37:12 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @parisianfeline @FiresideMag He’ll announce Monday. His wrists are tired. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:37:34 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @talekyn @neilhimself @EllenDatlow @warrenellis @joe_hill @johnklima See what happens when you go storm chasing? #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:38:04 +0000 2013)Wyld_Dandelyon: Look! @BryanThomasS: is kickstarting a new #scifi anythologyhttp://t.co/Tzx1xapL RAYGUN CHRONICLES Space Opera for a New Age #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:38:12 +0000 2013)BryanThomasS: @MorgenRich @FiresideMag As always, my pleasure. thanks for joining us! #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:38:33 +0000 2013)neilhimself: @FiresideMag no, @joe_hill was brought up proper. He don’t yell. He’s quality. #sffwrtcht (Thu Jan 31 03:39:02 +0000 2013)Participants
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